{"id":189,"date":"2021-04-14T18:24:51","date_gmt":"2021-04-14T18:24:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.laspa.slg.br\/?p=189"},"modified":"2021-04-14T18:24:51","modified_gmt":"2021-04-14T18:24:51","slug":"tardes-idea-of-quantification-latour-2015-2010","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.laspa.slg.br\/en\/2021\/04\/14\/tardes-idea-of-quantification-latour-2015-2010\/","title":{"rendered":"Tarde\u2019s idea of quantification (Latour 2015 [2010])"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>LATOUR, Bruno. 2010. Tarde&#8217;s idea of quantification. In Matei Candea (Ed.). <em>The social after Gabriel Tarde: debates and assessments<\/em>. London: Routledge, pp.145-62.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;CI\u00caNCIA&#8221; SIM, &#8220;NATURAL&#8221; N\u00c3O, <em>SOCIAL<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What is so refreshing in Tarde (more than a century later!) is that he never doubted for a minute that it was possible to have a scientific sociology \u2013 or rather, an \u201c inter-psychology\u201d, to use his term. And he espoused this position without ever believing that this should be done through a superficial imitation of the natural sciences. (Latour 2010:145-6)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>THE &#8220;LAW-STRUCTURE\/INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS&#8221; DISTINCTION IS THE RESULT OF A DEFICIT-LACK OF INFORMATION<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Tarde\u2019s reasoning goes straight to the heart of the matter: the natural sciences grasp their object from far away, and, so to speak, in bulk. [&#8230;] It is therefore quite normal that they should rely on a rough outline of the \u201csocieties\u201d of gas and cells to make their observations. (Remember that for Tarde \u201ceverything is a society.\u201d) [&#8230;] Although the very distinction between a law or structure and its individual components is acceptable in natural sciences, it cannot be used as a universal template to grasp all societies. The distinction is an artifact of distance, of where the observer is placed and of the number of entities they are considering at once. The gap between overall structure and underlying components is the symptom of a <em>lack of<\/em> information: the elements are too numerous, their exact whereabouts are unknown, there exist too many hiatus in their trajectories, and the ways in which they intermingle has not been grasped. It would therefore be very odd for what is originally a <em>deficit of information<\/em> to be turned into the universal <em>goal<\/em> of any scientific inquiry. (Latour 2010:148)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>What is perfectly acceptable for \u201csociologists\u201d of stars, atoms, cells and organisms, is inacceptable for the sociologists of the few billions of humans, or for the economists of a few millions of transactions. For in the latter cases, we most certainly have, or we should at least strive to possess, the information needed to dissolve the illusion of the structure. (Latour 2010:146)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Structure is what is imagined to fill the gaps when there is a deficit of information as to the ways any entity inherits from its predecessors and successors. (Latour 2010:153)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>[T]he opposition is not between a holistic view of the societies [&#8230;] and an individualist one. It is between a first approximation through crude statistical records that loses most of the inner quantification of the organism, and a more refined one that has learned how to follow how <em>each<\/em> of those organisms inherits and transmits its own individual innovations. Change the instruments, and you will change the entire social theory that goes with them. The only thing to lose is the notion of a structure, distinct from its incarnations, this artifact that compensates for a deficit of information. (Latour 2010:153)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>TARDE (distinguia o estudo das sociedades humanas do estudo das outras pelos motivos certos, i.e.: pelo fato de que cientistas s\u00e3o humanos e, portanto, conhecem a sociedade &#8220;de dentro&#8221;) e DURKHEIM (fez a mesma coisa, mas pelos motivos errados, i.e.: peti\u00e7\u00f5es de princ\u00edpio, argumentos de autoridade, f\u00f3rmulas ret\u00f3ricas como &#8220;pela for\u00e7a das coisas&#8221; etc.)<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The shibboleth that distinguishes their [Tarde&#8217;s and Durkheim&#8217;s] attitudes is not that one is \u201cfor society\u201d while the other is \u201cfor the individual actor.\u201d (This is what the Durkheimians have quite successfully claimed so as to bury Tarde into the individual psychology he always rejected.) The distinction is drawn by whether one accepts or does not accept that a structure can be qualitatively distinct from its components. In response to this test question, Durkheim answers \u201cyes\u201d for both kinds of societies. Tarde says \u201cyes\u201d, for natural societies (for there is no way to do otherwise), but \u201cno\u201d for human societies. For human societies, and for only human societies, we can do <em>so much more<\/em>. (Latour 2010:147)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>MONADOLOGY (desire\/belief)<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[F]or Tarde: the very heart of social phenomena is quantifiable because individual monads are constantly evaluating one another in simultaneous attempts to expand and to stabilize their worlds. The notion of expansion is coded for him in the word \u201cdesire,\u201d and stabilization in the word \u201cbelief\u201d [&#8230;]. Each monad strives to <em>possess<\/em> one another. (Latour 2010:148)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>How many entities can one entelechy reach? \u2013 That is <em>desire<\/em>. How many can they stabilize, order, fix or keep in place? \u2013 That is <em>belief<\/em>. No providence whatsoever can produce any harmony over and above the interplay of desire and belief in each monad, let loose on the world. [&#8230;] With extreme avidity (a term Tarde prefers to that of \u2018identity\u2019), all monads will seize every possible occasion to grasp one another in a quantitative manner. This accelerates and also simplifies their aggregation and cohesion; it modifies them and gives them another turn and another handle.  (Latour 2010:156)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>A SOCIOLOGIA DE TARDE N\u00c3O \u00c9 BASEADA NO IND\u00cdDUO PSICOL\u00d3GICO, MAS NA INDIVIDUA\u00c7\u00c3O COLETIVA (TRANSINDIVIDUAL)<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Does this mean that we should always stick to the individual? No, but we should find ways to gather the individual \u201che\u201d and \u201cshe\u201d without losing out on the specific ways in which they are able to mingle, in a standard, in a code, in a bundle of customs, in a scientific discipline, in a technology \u2013 but never in some overarching society. The challenge is to try to obtain their aggregation without either shifting our attention at any point to a whole, or changing modes of inquiry. [&#8230;] Following the \u201cimitative rays\u201d will render the social traceable from beginning to end without limiting us to the individual, or<br \/>\nforcing a leap up to the level of a structure. (Latour 2010:149)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>IMITA\u00c7\u00c3O como A\u00c7\u00c3O-REDE (a\u00e7\u00e3o distribu\u00edda, mas sempre local em cada ponto)<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Imitation, that is, literally, the \u201cepidemiology of ideas.\u201d With this notion, he [Tarde] could render the social sciences scientific enough by following individual traits, yet without them getting confused when they aggregated to form seemingly \u201cimpersonal\u201d models and transcendent structures. The term \u201cimitation\u201d may be replaced by many others (for instance, monad, actor-network or entelechy), provided these have the equivalent role: of tracing the ways in which individual monads conspire with one another without ever producing a structure. (Latour 2010:149)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>O DUALISMO INDIV\u00cdDUO\/SOCIEDADE \u00c9 O EFEITO DE UMA &#8220;TRANSI\u00c7\u00c3O DE FASE&#8221; (entre &#8220;individualizar um grupo&#8221; e &#8220;ser um indiv\u00edduo num coletivo&#8221;) AINDA MAL COMPREENDIDA<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For Tarde, if we were to believe that the first duty of social science is to \u201creconcile the actor and the system\u201d or to \u201csolve the quandary of the individual versus society,\u201d we would have to abandon all hope of ever being scientific. This is tantamount to aping the natural sciences, which are perfectly alright in getting by with discovering a structure and neglecting minor individual variations because they are much too far to observe whether or not a \u201ccollective self\u201d emerges <em>ex abrupto<\/em> from \u201cits astonished associates.\u201d Fortunately, in the case of human sciences, we know this emergence is different. We can verify every day, alas, that \u201cleaders\u201d are \u201cborn from fathers and mothers\u201d and not \u201ccollectively.\u201d This forces us to discover the real conduits through which any group is able to emerge. For instance, we might search for how associates might \u201cindividualize in themselves the group in its entirety\u201d through legal or political vehicles. Once we have ferreted out what makes this phase transition possible we will be able to see with clarity, the difference between \u201cindividualizing a group\u201d and \u201cbeing an individual in a collective structure.\u201d Each case requires a completely different feel for the complex ecology of the situation. (Latour 2010:150)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>A\u00c7\u00c3O-REDE (trajet\u00f3ria) PARA AL\u00c9M DA OPOSI\u00c7\u00c3O INDIV\u00cdDUO\/SOCIEDADE (o agregado \u00e9 real, mas nunca separado de suas varia\u00e7\u00f5es individuais)<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We have (or should have) full access to the aggregated dynamic. What is called a \u201cstructural law\u201d by some sociologists is simply the phenomenon of aggregation: the formatting and standardization of a great number of copies, stabilized by imitation and made available in a new form, such as a code, a dictionary, an institution, or a custom. According to Tarde, if it is wrong to consider individual variations as though they were deviations from a law, it is equally wrong to consider individual variations as the only rich phenomenon to be studied by opposition with (or distance from) statistical results. It is in the nature of the individual agent to imitate others. What we observe either in individual variations or in aggregates are just two detectable <em>moments<\/em> along a trajectory drawn by the observer who is following the fate of any given \u201cimitative ray.\u201d To follow those rays (or \u201c actor-networks\u201d [&#8230;]) is to encounter, depending on the moment, individual innovations and then aggregates, followed afterwards by more individual innovations. It is the trajectory of what circulates that counts, not any of its provisional steps. (Latour 2010:151)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>[T]he distinction between structure and ingredient [&#8230;] [is] due to a deficiency of information. If the researcher is in possession of this information, this chain of invention, this \u201cimitative ray,\u201d then there is no reason why they cannot follow the individual innovation as well as the aggregates, smoothly. If there is a map of a river catchment, there is no need to leap from the individual rivulets to the River, with a capital R. We will follow, one by one, each individual rivulet until they become a river \u2013 with a small r. (Latour 2010:152)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>COMO ACESSAR-CONSTRUIR CENTRAIS DE C\u00c1LCULO<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Here resides the fourth and final reason why Tarde\u2019s sociology seems so original and so fresh for us today. A judgment of taste, an inflexion in the way we speak, a slight mutation in our habits, a preference between two goods, a decision taken on the spur of the moment, an idea flashing in the brain, the conclusion of a long series of inconclusive syllogisms, and so forth \u2013 what appears most qualitative is actually where the greatest numbers of calculations are being made among \u201cdesires\u201d and \u201cbeliefs.\u201d So, in principle, for Tarde, this is also the locus where we should be best able to quantify. Providing, that is, that we have the instruments to capture what he calls \u201clogical duels.\u201d (Latour 2010:154)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>O INDIV\u00cdDUO \u00c9 UMA SOCIEDADE<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The reason why there is no need for an overarching society is because there is no individual to begin with, or at least no individual atoms. The individual element is a monad, that is, a representation, a reflection, or an interiorization of a whole set of other elements borrowed from the world around it. If there is nothing especially structural in the \u201cwhole,\u201d it is because of a vast crowd of elements <em>already present<\/em> in every single entity. This is where the word \u201cnetwork\u201d \u2013 and even actor-network \u2013 captures what Tarde had to say much better than the word \u201cindividual.\u201d Contrary to what is often said, there is not even a hint of \u201cmethodological individualism\u201d in this argument. There is no psychologism, nor of course any temptation toward \u201crational choice.\u201d (Latour 2010:154)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Behind every \u201che\u201d and \u201cshe,\u201d one could say, there are a vast number of other \u201che\u2019s\u201d and \u201cshe\u2019s\u201d to which they have been interrelated. When Tarde insists that we detect specific embranchments and bifurcations behind every innovation, he is not saying that we should celebrate individual genius. It is rather that geniuses are made of a vast crowd of neurons!. (Latour 2010:155)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>A monarch is to his people what conscience is to the brain, what ego is to the neurons, what Darwin is to the thousands of naturalists through the obscure work on which he depends for his \u201cglory\u201d! Once again, the \u201cone\u201d piggybacks on top of the \u201cmany\u201d but without composing a \u201cthey.\u201d This is where Tarde\u2019s originality resides: everything is individual and yet there is no individual in the etymological sense of that which cannot be further divided. (Latour 2010:155)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>CI\u00caNCIA \u00c9 SOBRE E NA NATUREZA<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>science is <em>in<\/em> and <em>of<\/em> the world it studies. It does not hang over the world from the outside. It has no privilege. This is precisely what makes science so immensely important: it performs the social together with all of the other actors, all of whom try to turn new instruments to their own benefits. (Latour 2010:156)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>TARDE VISION\u00c1RIO<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is quite amusing to imagine Tarde directing his statistical bureau, nurturing so many doubts about the quality of the data he was handing out to the Ministry of Justice (and also to Marcel Mauss who was helping his uncle to write his book, Suicide, in which Tarde was trashed every two footnotes \u2026), while dreaming, at the same time, of the many interesting quantitative instruments he had no way of obtaining: the \u201cgloriometer\u201d for following reputation (so easily accessible now with page rankings); conversation for understanding economic transactions (now the object of so many tools following buzz and viral marketing \u2013 Rosen 2009); \u201cphonometers\u201d like those invented by Abb\u00e9 Rousselot in order to follow the smallest inflexions of the native speakers (now accessible through the automated study of vast corpora of documents). [&#8230;] When Tarde claimed that statistics would one day be as easy to read as newspapers, he could not have anticipated that the newspapers themselves would be so transformed by digitalization that they would merge into the new domain of data visualization. This is a clear case of a social scientist being one century ahead of his time because he had anticipated a quality of connection and traceability necessary for good statistics which was totally unavailable in 1900. A century later, networks and traces are triggering the excitement of social and natural scientists everywhere (Barabasi 2003; Benkler 2006). [&#8230;]  Digital navigation through point-to-point datascapes might, a century later, vindicate Tarde\u2019s insights. (Latour 2010:158)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>LATOUR, Bruno. 2010. Tarde&#8217;s idea of quantification. In Matei Candea (Ed.). The social after Gabriel Tarde: debates and assessments. 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